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Addie Pray May 28, , Is this what Oldie meant though? These stupid gender assignments? Is this what trying to be a man means? That you are successful outside of the home? And that emasculates a man somehow? I never understand what people mean when they say feminism is making women more masculine and men more feminine.

Are they talking about character traits such as men being ambitious and aggressive, and women being more passive and nurturing? Milla May 28, , Gender presentation rarely has anything to do with whether or not one is a feminist. Please look into the idea of femme embracing the performative aspects of traditional femininity, often as a political act for one thing.

I love cooking, embroidering, and taking care of my home. Who also has a closet full of skirts and dresses! Temperance May 29, , 4: Lindsay May 28, , 1: None of that is biological.

My husband is not masculine. He never has been. Shockingly, I am still interested in him sexually. One recommendation I have is to not usual the F word. But really jump in. And have your husband read it too. And maybe you can talk about the issues and see how you can make your marriage more of an equal partnership if that is what you want. And yes, she is a modern feminist and champions women from all walks of life. The boom — while kind of annoying in parts — I thought was really so-right-on, and effective.

Jillie z May 28, , Addie Pray May 28, , 7: And I wish I had read her book when I was 20, before my career even started. Glad to hear you liked it. I thought it would all be pretty obvious things. LBH, I loved it because she actually approaches it very scientifically and academically.

Her husband sounds amazing! She just makes you not want to settle. Addie Pray May 28, , 5: TaraMonster May 28, , 6: It is fantastic and so spot on. Essie May 28, , If you used that phrasing with your husband, I can see where he found it amusing, and possibly even mildly insulting. Would you find it absolutely gross if I stopped shaving? I love the way you phrased this whole thing. Feminism is so much more than bra burning and not shaving your legs. I wish more people would see it that way.

Feminism just meaning you have the right to choose what is best for you. Fighting for individual rights inspires others to do the same, which sparks a revolution. She is growing and changing as an individual which can be awkward when you are also a part of a couple. Diablo May 28, , They are smart, strong and capable, often moreso than men. I would roll my eyes at the LW, too. A strong person can make her own choices, no objection.

But when you start justifying a personal hygiene decision by means of huge ideological moral imperatives, it makes you sound really weak. If you are talking big social issues in a broad context, fine, but when you bandy words like feminism about in your personal life, I wonder why you need to resort to that.

When someone tries to justify a simple personal choice through big political ideas, it usually comes off as false and weak. It might come off that way, but brushing off your wife because of that is a recipe for a problem. PS — I roll my eyes at my wife sixteen times a day, and she does to me too.

Most communication is non-verbal. We both know that we respect each other. My marriage is a constant jockeying of philosophical, political, social, personal, and comedy-based arguments. We are both trying to win those arguments every day, without malice, but also giving no quarter. It would be an insult to her if i gave up when I did not really believe in what she was saying. I guess every relationship is different then. Mocking ridiculousness in ourselves and others is really at the heart of our relationship among other things.

I think the LW is trying to redefine the relationship and is working through the fact that her husband is trying to keep the relationship the same as it was.

The personal is political, etc. Lynn May 28, , Crap like this is what pushes me far, far way from even wanting to embrace feminism just a little bit. I expected her letter to include all these examples that were a lot more deep than leg shaving. All of us hate doing it, so why give the LW heat for trying to stop it? It is obnoxious and horrible if he rolls his eyes at the things you think and believe though.

Fix those bigger problems so you can talk through the smaller things, like shaving your legs. Roxy84 May 28, , 2: LW May 28, , 5: Yes, this is really the crux of what bothers me on the Feminism thing, his dismissiveness. It goes beyond feminism too. Like, he is a bitter ex-Catholic and staunch atheist.

Anyway, thanks Ladies for keeping me anonymous, I was afraid all the background info about length of relationship, etc. Eagle Eye May 28, , 5: I have, however, refined how I approach things with him. Basically, talk about it less and let him come to you.

If he engages let him, if he disengages let him do that too. Christy June 3, , 3: I thought it was you! The comments to this letter are really surprising me, especially after the comments on the Taking His Name letter. I thought people were being obnoxiously anti-man on that letter, and this LW is getting bashed for even having this discussion with her husband. Same with the leg shaving issue, she is just trying to goad him into a debate with her.

Now if only I could master the whole engineering speak! I had the opposite problem in college. I was a feminist hippie, had a feminist hippie boyfriend, so I experimented with no makeup, not shaving legs, armpits, let my hair grow out all long and wavy that is frizzy on the east coast… and wore birkenstocks, and tie dye and Indian print clothing. Be careful about being too dogmatic. If he likes you shaved, and you want to do it either for him or for yourself, do it.

Maybe we should use feminism to address issues like that, and make shaving just be a personal decision. Though your comment does bring up some disturbing images…. I meant dressing too. I never thought of what you just implied. Though this tends to make my point, too.

Zepp May 28, , Ugh this letter is painful. Picking fights with your husband about shaving your legs does nothing for women. This is a really unfair statement. Especially when the LW was probably just using this as one example out of many.

And it DOES sound like there are problems in the relationship. Sounds like a real problem to me. She said she has personal reasons to stop as well as feminism ones.

I never once said he was sexist because he wants her to shave her legs. LadyinPurpleNotRed May 28, , 1: And she invited his opinion into it. Heather May 28, , Sheryl May 28, , I actually think shaving legs should not fall into things feminists care about — you are perfectly within your rights to not shave your legs, as is your husband for preferring you to continue to shave your legs. Beauty standards is a completely separate topic, and should be treated as such. Frankly, biology is what dictates those.

Everyone else in the world would not notice or care if you stopped shaving your legs. This is still a very real risk for many women. There is a long history of feminism being scoffed at because of the way some of it takes the personal an intimate relationship between man and women and turns it political. It runs both ways. And your husband is trying to belittle you for taking the first steps towards expressing your feminism.

Humor is great, but belittling is not okay. He has to engage with you seriously as an equal! But we believe in ending world hunger and AIDS and marriage inequality anyway. Captainswife May 28, , But you can be equally feminist even if you DO shave your legs. LW May 28, , 3: Just to make it clear to anyone, I do not for one second believe that any woman who chooses to shave her legs is anti-feminist or a patriarchy-supporter.

My train of thought around leg-shaving went something like this. Why do I even do it in the first place? Ah, well, some boys made fun of me when I was in junior high and came to school with hairy legs.

Why do I still do it? Wait, is that really my reason? I should just stop already, public opinion be damned. Bittergaymark May 28, , Which does everybody think I suspect this LW is? To put it bluntly, the quit shaving your legs b. More than just a bit of a game changer. If your husband had wanted some Solo time with Chewbacca I think he would have made that clear while dating….

Somehow, I thought we were. But at the end of the day you want your husband to be a different man than the one you married. Not years after the fact…. What a depressing way to think about marriage. But is putting down the razor really an essential part of a person? If it is, I wonder what will happen when her boobs get saggy and her hair turns gray. And I do think one owes a duty to their partner to at least TRY to stay attractive to them, try to maintain your weight, etc. I agree with you about that.

I just disagree that this changes who she is essentially. Deciding that your husband is sexist because he has personal reasons for wanting you to keep shaving is a pretty big deal. It goes along with the razor. You can leave your wife for whatever reason you want, right? That just means that marriage becomes a limitation on your growth, instead of what it should be — two people helping each other grow. Each has a choice. She can choose to change, he can choose to leave because of it. Like I doubt this guy is expecting her to not change anything ever.

I just got back from a cruise. I had a hard time shaving because of the teeny tiny shower. However, by the time I was home, I felt so skeeved out! This literally happened to me yesterday when I got home. Funny how this letter just came out when I just felt so happy to have shaved legs.

I had a similar problem with my husband. All this to say, maybe you can just try being really blunt with him. I thoroughly disagree about the eyerolling. Sometimes eye rolling is truly warranted.

Repeatedly trotting out feminism as a reason to stop shaving yours legs is rather like repeatedly refusing to wash the dirty dishes with soap due to environmental concerns… Both are equally laughably absurd. Are people not allowed to have those? But I find it odd how people are fixating on that, here. Then I guess it probably just means different things to different people. Which does, for a while, and then we have this conversation again, like 5 min later….

Lindsay May 28, , I agree with the eye rolling thing too. But if you say or do something over the top? I understand the urge to roll your eyes. Some people really are that obnoxious. But of all the people you know and interact with, your partner deserves your utmost respect and kindness. And you know what? If the person you married makes you want to roll your eyes, then, well, you chose to marry them.

You made your bed, so you get to lie in it. Bittergaymark May 28, , 8: I have never met a couple. To expect otherwise is laughable. May 28, , This is like the men-opening-doors issue that comes up now and again. Just because a man opens a door for you, does that mean he thinks of you as inferior? I consider myself a feminist in that I believe in equal pay, sex ed, pro-choice and all the things the LW cited above.

But I also love it when a man opens a door for me. I consider it good manners and a gesture of respect. But I am not relieved of any obligation. In order to get said respect, I must be worthy of it. Therein lies the balance, and I am all about balance. Does your husband treat you well otherwise? Does he respect you as an equal partner in life? I get not wanting to be a doormat, but life is abouit compromise, as Wendy said.

If you go around with a my-way-or-the-highway attitude, you may find yourself going your way alone. But neither should our men. I think it has less to do with fantasy and the fact that if women and men are both working in full-time jobs, it makes no sense for women to be the only ones who are cleaning their home. Firestar May 28, , 1: I always think something went awry with the couple that both work and then she has all the child care and home responsibilities too and is run ragged.

You are doing feminism wrong sweetie. It never meant you were to have two full time jobs while your husband just kept his one. Who the hell wants THAT deal? Two of Elizabeth's Wakefield relatives imprisoned in Newgate for abduction Quaker advice against trading beyond ones means Quaker prisons established in America 3.

He was made bankrupt and the Religious Society of Friends Quakers formally disowned him in the spring of As a prison reformer, Elizabeth Fry aroused hostility as well as admiration. Some other prison reformers disapproved of her unorthodox methods, and the irregular authority of her lady prison visitors. It has been said that to see her reading to the prisoners of Newgate was considered "one of the sights of London".

It is an inevitable practice, not only of Mrs Fry, but of all the ladies in connection with the several prison committees, when reading to the prisoners, to confine themselves entirely to the truths contained in the Holy Scripture. Pentonville Model Prison based on the separate system of American Quakers By the time of her death Far too good, the Bishop of Norwich told her memorial meeting, to have a tomb amongst the "emblems of heathen mythology" that disgraced Westminster Abbey.

Lord Ashley chaired the meeting on Wednesday Quaker women who were active in their own church affairs sought to be active in the affairs of inter-denominational associations they joined such as slavery abolition groups. Harriet Taylor, in , wrote "some of the most eminent names of the present age, have made emphatic protests in favour of the equality of women. And there have been voluntary societies, religious or secular, of which the Society of Friends is the most known, by whom that principle was recognized".

In , a World's Anti-slavery Convention was called in London. Women from Boston, New York, and Philadelphia, were delegates to that convention. I was one of the number; but, on our arrival in England, our credentials were not accepted because we were women. We were, however, treated with great courtesy and attention, as strangers, and as women, were admitted to chosen seats as spectators and listeners, while our right of membership was denied--we were voted out.

This brought the Woman question more into view, and an increase of interest in the subject has been the result. In this work, too, I have engaged heart and hand, as my labors, travels, and public discourses evince. The misrepresentation, ridicule, and abuse heaped upon this, as well as other reforms, do not, in the least, deter me from my duty.

To those, whose name is cast out as evil for the truth's sake, it is a small thing to be judged of man's judgement About Lucretia Coffin Mott at the Lucretia Coffin Mott Papers Project Temperance In his experiment cocoa or tea sweetened with sugar or treacle and skimmed milk were drunk instead of alcoholic drinks.

This was much cheaper and the money saved was spent on nutritious food. Josiah Hunt opened cocoa-houses at either end of Almonbury Tunnel. Smith, "Adult schools and the making of adult education" The encyclopedia of informal education Quakers formed the "Friends' First-day School Association" in Birmingham in At first this was mainly concerned with the education of children, but William White promoted the concern for adult education. Quakers in York set up an Adult School in Thirty adults men over fifteen had been taught on Sunday morning in a room at the British School in Hope Street.

They now moved into a rented room behind the premises of the Quaker business of the Rowntree family. There were two classes: John Wilhelm Rowntree was the eldest son of Joseph Rowntree May A national Friends' First-day School Association conference was held at the same time as yearly meeting and in future years the Friends' First-day School Association continued to meet independently of but at the same time as yearly meeting.

A preceding Committee on General Meetings was closed in Joseph Bevan Braithwaite senior was a member of both. Opposite the flats is a Blue plaque put up in honouring his daughter's name. In her youth, Mary Hughes took part in work on behalf of the poor and unfortunate. You drove to that work in a carriage and when the work was done you drove back to a beautiful house. Mary became deeply convinced that her class was unjustly privileged and felt convicted of its sins against society.

She decided that she did not want to visit the poor. She wanted to be with the poor and be poor herself. Choosing to live in the East End, she became a "shabby and sometimes verminous women" living the ideals of Christian Socialism in a direct way. Visit Kingsley Hall web site Mary Hughes became a Quaker in , influenced by the Society's conscientious objection to the war, but continued to attend Anglican services.

She was an early example of what some have called the "Quanglicans", who value the traditions of both churches. In it was again adapted by the Anglican architect, S.

Grylls Wilson, who continued to care for it during Mary's life. Mary, who lived there, was described by George Lansbury as its "founder, manager, and administrator". The punning name meant it was somewhere you could drop in. People came with every sort of problem, and many stayed there. The upper rooms were intended primarily for students of "sociology", studying at first hand how the poor lived. After the defeat of the General Strike and Ramsey MacDonald's cuts in unemployment benefit , Mary's attachment to the Labour Party weakened and her sympathies with the communists grew, although she strongly opposed their appeals to violence.

The plate glass windows of the Dew Drop Inn "were pasted up with every sort of propaganda, communist, pacifist, and religious". Mary was tireless, exasperatingly eccentric and greatly loved: George Lansbury said, "Our frail humanity only produces a Mary Hughes once in a century". She was pictured with stick on Gandhi's visit to London in , at Muriel Lester's house, and the Quaker Tapestry have made a panel commemorating her work.

When it moved to Stoke Newington, Stepney Council bought the premises shortly after the second world war to set up an ante- natal clinic, day nursery, nursery for the care of premature infants, hostel for nursery nurses and school treatment centre.

The project was continued by Tower Hamlets Council, and ran for almost 50 years. It closed about It is now called the Mary Hughes Building and houses a variety of children and adult services for local people.

All but 20 of them were Jewish. It was the second largest death toll of the V2 campaign. A remembrance service was held on Sunday After Psalms were read, Montague Richardson, former chair of the Brady Boy's club, intoned the memorial prayer, the Kaddish. If anyone has pictures or information, could they please contact Andrew Roberts. We know of a book and a booklet about Mary Hughes: Rosa Hobhouse, Mary Hughes: This web page is built around the exhibition Quakers in Shoreditch held in Shoreditch Library, Hoxton in Responsibility for the page rests entirely with Andrew Roberts.

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He writes about arrests following on Whereas of late times certain persons under the name of Quakers, and other names of separation, have taken up and maintained sundry dangerous opinions and tenets, and amongst others that the taking of an Oath in any case whatsoever, although before a lawful magistrate, is altogether unlawful and contrary to the Word of God; and the said persons do daily refuse to take an oath, though lawfully tendered, whereby it often happens that the truth is wholly suppressed, and the administration of justice much obstructed: And whereas the said persons under a pretence of religious worship, do often assemble themselves in great numbers in several parts of this realm, to the endangering of the public peace and safety, and to the terror of the people, by maintaining a secret and strict correspondence amongst themselves, and in the mean time separating and dividing themselves from the rest of his Majesty's good and loyal subjects, and from the public congregations, and usual places of divine worship.

For the redressing therefore, and better preventing the many mischiefs and dangers that do and may arise by such dangerous tenets, and such unlawful assemblies: That if any person or persons who maintain that the taking of an oath in any case soever, although before a lawful magistrate, is altogether unlawful and contrary to the Word of God, from and after the four and twentieth day of March, in this present Year of our Lord, one thousand six hundred and sixty one [the legal year ended And for want of such distress, or non-payment of the said penalty within one week, after such conviction, that then the said parties so convicted, shall for the first offence be committed to the common gaol, or House of Correction, for the space of three months and for the second offence, during six months, without bail or mainprize, there to be kept to hard labour: Which said monies to be levied shall be paid to such person or Persons as shall be appointed by those before whom they shall be convicted, to be employed for the increase of the stock of the House of Correction, to which they shall be committed, and providing materials to set them at work.

And if any person after he in form aforesaid, has been twice convicted of any of the said offenses, shall offend the third time, and be thereof in form aforesaid lawfully convict, that then every person so offending and convict, shall for his or her third offence abjure the realm, or otherwise it shall and may be lawful to and for his Majesty, his heirs and successors, to give order, and to cause him, her or them, to be transported in any ship or ships, to any of his Majesty's Plantations beyond the seas.

The Conventicle Act of made it penal for any person to attend a conventicle. The punishment for the first offence was three months imprisonment. The Five Mile Act in punished dissenting preachers with a 40 pound fine if they came within five miles of towns. See Edward Burrough Sunday A Justice of the Peace committed them to Newgate. With a general Relation of Affairs, signifying the state of the people through the Land. London, Printed in the Year l Ascribed to Edward Burrough and others.

Katie King archive traces the information in the following passage back to the manuscript Great Book of Sufferings maintained by Quakers. Katie King's paper analyses "going naked as a sign" as a more general category of behaviour which includes plain speech and all the social "rudeness" my word of early Quakers.

In response to the passing of the Quaker Act in , [Phyllis] Mack recounts "The day after one government raid, Solomon Eccles passed through Bartholomew Fair as a sign, 'naked with a pan on his head full of fire and brimstone, flaming up in the sight of the people, crying repentance among them, and bade them remember Sodom. Paul's, one 'with her face made black, and her hair down with blood poured in it, which run down upon her sackcloth which she had on, and she poured also some blood down upon the altar and spoke some words.

In the process some became the prosperous owners of black slaves. Whilst accepting, and benefiting from, the ownership of slaves, Quakers were sensitive to a tension between this and "being tender to that of God in all". It was this that precipitated one of the founding doctrinal statements, a letter of from Quakers to the Governor of Barbados , in which they set out the Christian responsibility of including slaves and natives in the family of God.

In 18th century England , Quakers were part of the triangular trade in slaves, and part of the crisis of conscience conviction of sin that led to its abolition. See John Woolman Quakers usually emphasise the society as the pioneer of slave liberation.

Some natural philosophers argued that God established nature by laws and so plagues were not a direct action or a sign of his wrath. Quakers would have none of this. An early Quaker victim of the plague was Henry Stokes, Spittlefields baker, who died on James Stokes, a descendent, has written his story. Solomon Eccles born ? His streaking can be traced back to He was apparently arrested in May in Southwark.

He is said to have run naked through Bartholomew and Smithfield in as a religious warning respecting the plague. Pepys witnessed him running naked through Westminster Hall in I have not seen the entry. The jury found them guilty only of "speaking in Gracious Street" and refused to change their verdict even after two days spent in prison.

This established the primacy of the jury's decision in English law. His father's rival Pepys records in In he accepted land in America in payment of a debt Charles II owed his father, but he made special treaties with the Indians of Pennsylvania, as he knew his "Holy Experiment" needed their respect and friendship.

Fox and others in America Before George Fox sailed for America he established what became six weeks meeting Gracious Street or White Hart Court "Gracious Street" or Gracechurch Street meeting house began as an inn like Bull and Mouth , acquired after the Great Fire , but was rebuilt as something more like our idea of a meeting house. George Fox died at a house next door, after a meeting here on 13th January in modern reckoning. After his funeral at the meeting house, some 4, people accompanied his body to Bunhill Fields for burial.

Quakers numbered the months to avoid using heathen names and Fox's 19th century tombstone shows his death as the 11th month of Gracechurch Street became one of the most important Quaker Meetings, and the neighbourhood around it became the centre of the Quaker business community in the city.

City Friends mingled piety with prosperity and earned reputations as sober, honest tradesmen. Some, like the Barclays, Lloyds, and Gurneys , made fortunes in trade and banking. Quaker financial knowhow and investment was important to the success of Pennsylvania. In ministry one Quaker counselled him to return there immediately.

The stranger was John Woolman who, through his loving ministry, won the support of the Yearly Meeting. He died at York on 7. Another Quaker peculiarity involved hats, which were not taken off out of deference to persons in authority.

This caused William Penn and William Mead to be fined for contempt of court, at the same time as the jury in their case was imprisoned.

In the seventeenth century, refusing to take one's hat off before someone in authority was a highly offensive act implying complete lack of respect for the social order. Equally offensive in families was that when young men converted to Quakerism they kept their hats on in the company of their fathers. Dishonour to one's father also had political implications at a time when Royalist theory derived the legitimacy of the king from the fifth commandment.

Before about the hat insult and calling everyone by the familiar "the and thou" were two signs taken to mean that Quakers were turbulent and possibly revolutionary people. See also 5th monarchists and going naked as a sign Gradually, as Quakers distanced themselves from these implications, with the Peace Testimony for example, refusing to pay hat homage and using the and thou, along with the Quaker dress, just became peculiarities that set Quakers apart.

The same Quakers who kept their hats on when talking to rich and powerful humans, took them off when offering prayer in a meeting for worship, or "ministering". This picture of Gracechurch Street Meeting c. Note also that women and men sit in separate halves of the meeting. They worshipped together, but there were separate men's and women's business meetings until the end of the nineteenth century. In the gallery looking on are some non-Quakers, or "the world's people", in brighter clothing.

By the time of the picture the Society of Friends had become more inward-looking and "quietist". Elizabeth was born in Aldersgate Street, St.

May Last meeting for worship held at Gracechurch Street during yearly meeting 2. Before it was rebuilt, Quakers took a lease on part of a house on Bishopsgate owned by the Earl of Devonshire: In the house was sold for development.

Fisher's Folly stood just to the west of what is now Devonshire Square. From to it was the Duke of Devonshire's town house. William Cavendish, second Earl of Devonshire, died here on He was only 28 years old and his death is said to have been from excessive indulgence in good living. He was buried in Derby. Remains of a wall of Fisher's Folly survive, forming the lower part of the rear wall of 4 to 18 Devonshire Row. Having been the Houndsditch access to the Duke of Devonshire House, it appears to have become the access to the old Quaker meeting house before the Dolphin Inn was purchased.

See present day photographs. The constituent meetings of the Devonshire House Monthly Meeting were: Refering to the Rump Parliament it had the lines Canto 2, lines And when th' have pack'd a Parliament, Will once more try th' expedient: Who can already muster friends, To serve for members, to our ends, That represent no part o' th' nation, But Fisher's-Folly Congregation; Devonshire House property in the 17th century From an old plan Devonshire House was sold to Nicholas Barbon for development.

Devonshire Square and a new Quaker meeting-house were built on the garden of the former house between and Devonshire Square is an early example of a formal square in this area, but the present buildings were not part of the original square. Then a portion of land was rented on which a meeting house was erected later".

This old meeting house is shown as "Quakers Mtg House" on the 17th century plan and as X on the plan. See also Stone House Court Sufferings of the People Called Quakers.

It is believed that Agnes and John had a son who died in infancy, before they sailed to the new world, settling in North Carolina in Devonshire House and Whitechapel Bakers Row, Whitechapel Six weeks meeting bought the reminder of the lease years of an acre of ground in Coverley's Fields, near Mile End Green.

It became a years lease in Whitechapel "was under the particular care of Devonshire House". Many Quakers from the east part of London were buried there, but "it would seem that ministers and persons of note were almost always buried in Bunhill Fields " Beck and Ball , page Whitechapel burial ground closed in See Michael Holmes, the gravedigger, had a house at the gateway to Whitechapel.

His son John Holmes and companions stole a corpse from the graveyard, as a result of which Michael lost his post and his home.

Concern spread to Bunhill. It was demolished in Quakers allowed Devonshire House to be used by the militia as a guard room "at a time when the Metropolis was thrown into a state of alarm by the advance into England of the Young Pretender and his forces".

Later convicted of stealing the butter, he was "publicly whipped in Bishopsgate-street, one hundred yards from the shop of the prosecutor". At some time between and the 19th century, "Sandwich Court" became "Cavendish Court".

After these extensions, Devonshire House was used for the Yearly Meeting , previously held mostly at Gracechurch Street and for Meeting for Sufferings Devonshire House came to house the Recording Clerk's office, and also the Library, set up in when it was decided to collect two copies of everything written by Quakers, and one copy of everything written against them.

The building in the centre with the clock is the "Old Meeting House". From Horwood's map of below it would appear there were two or, possibly, three entrances to the Yard: A possible one from Cavendish Court the old entrance , and definite ones from Houndsditch the main entrance and from Bishopsgate along the passage that had led to the Dolphin Inn.

Beck says that the yard between the two meeting houses "opened out on to Houndsditch, from which was made the principle entrance through a pair of large carriage-gates next to which, fronting the street, was a caretaker's house with rooms over the gateway; adjoining this also were premises used as a Book and Tract Depository , presided over for many years by our late Friend, Edward Marsh. Terms include an assemble "near Devonshire Square" or "near Houndsditch" or "in Houndsditch" or "their meeting house, Houndsditch" or "Houndsditch near Bishopsgate".

A short walk along this led to the famous Bethlem where lunatics were on public display. The Yorkshire Quaker family of Tuke see below were, at this time , developing new methods of confining and treating insane Quakers, which later generations were to adopt in public asylums Elizabeth Fry began her married life with Joseph Fry in St Mildred's Court, "close to the Bank and he Guildhall" in the summer of It was their home to Conveniently close to Devonshire House, leading Quakers used it for meals and lunch time naps during yearly meeting.

Janet Whitney , page 85 on, provides descriptions of the domestic situation and of the boredom of Elizabeth at women's yearly meeting.

Hannah Barnard silenced Hannah Barnard, of the State of New York in North America was advised to desist from travelling, and speaking as a minister and return home by Devonshire House in Hannah Prichard was present at his birth.

Edward went in partnership with Luxford and Co. He may have become the sole owner in about when the firm moved to 9 Devonshire Street. Edward Newman "did much of the printer's work for the Society" Beck , but the firm's main output must have been in natural history - See below - His son Thomas Prichard Newman continued the printing works.

In Verses for the parish of Aldersgate were printed and sold by Richard Clay, 9, Devonshire Street, Bishopsgate, who also printed for the Quakers. By it is E. Newman, Printer, 9 Devonshire Street, Bishopsgate. Beck says that purchase in Cavendish Court allowed a building for women's committees and similar activities behind the women's meeting house. C on the plan. The edition shows "E. Newman, Printer, 9, Devonshire Street, Bishopsgate" as the printer.

Modern photographs by Basher Eyre record the site of Edward Newman 's printing works. It is also the site of Fisher's Folly and one of the access points to the old Meeting House.

He was the nephew of Edmund Fry the type-founder and father of Edmund Fry the artist. Edmund Fry bookseller was born in Worship Street on 9. His wife, Harriet, was born about After their marriage, Edmund upholsterer and cabinet-maker and Harriet lived in Bristol, where Cornelius Fry was born Printed ; reprinted , For Edmund Fry, 73, Houndsditch. Hubert Fry born in Houndsditch To be open to any persons inclined to purchase, at reasonable prices, wholesale or retail.

The committee were all women and the aims of the Assocition were "To form an extensive but well chosen selection of instructive and improving Tracts, and other small publications, suitable for the use of labourers, mechanics, servants, and children ; and to assist persons wishing to form small Tract LENDING Libraries, among the poor in England and elsewhere.

Secretaries were Anna Bradshaw and Jane Forster. Edmund to continue the business and responsible for all debts. Cornelius, who married Lydia, became a grocer in Bethnal Green. Liverpool Street opened as its replacement in Census: Edmund Fry aged 58 , Bookseller, living with Sarah Fry aged 25 , Hubert Fry aged 23 and one male and one female servant in Bishopsgate.

Edward Marsh was appointed Superintendent, and the Printing Committee drew up paper of regulations as to the conduct of the business, and a catalogue of books to be sold.

Littleboy Testimonies concerning deceased Ministers presented to the Yearly Meeting of Friends held in London, A son, Thomas Prichard Newman , started working there as an office boy when he left school about ?

He took over from his father in , when he was Edward died in Thomas Prichard Newman remained active in the printing firm throughout his life. Amongst his many articles are "The Housing of the London Poor in In Newman published a long and thoughtful analysis of the third edition of The Origin of Species , and the related debate, in which he criticised Darwin for not having given weight to the authority of God's revelation through the Bible as a source of knowledge.

See top hats and billowing dresses. His studio was taken over by Charles Alfred Gandy. I on plan Houses in Devonshire Street including 9 owned by the Quakers and other parts of the Devonshire House property were "scheduled for purchase by a railway company" early s?

The money received in compensation, allowed the erection of new premises, which, after having been let to tenants for some years, have now for the most part been devoted to the purposes of the Society, and by alterations adapted to their present use as added committee-rooms, and offices for the Foreign and Home Mission work, and that of the Friends's Temperance Union, Friends Tract Association, and Friends' First-day School Association.

The adjoining Great Eastern Hotel The sub-surface "Metropolitan Railway", running not far below ground level, also had a station from Now Devonshire Row odd numbers. Front sections retained Beatrice Potter Later Webb , who worked on social science from the hotel in the late s, described it as the Quaker headquarters.

Men's meeting house C. Women's committee rooms D. Women's meeting house I. They designed the buildings which replaced Devonshire House. The street numbering was altered. It had 74 rooms. The Devonshire House premises came to be increasingly cramped and dismal, until the offices moved to the newly built Friends House in , opposite Euston Station. Devonshire House was demolished, but was, until recently, still part of the name of the local Monthly Meeting to which Bunhill and Stoke Newington belong.

Devonshire House and Tottenham Monthly Meeting - archive A deputation of "the most prominent business men in Houndsditch" petitioned the City Corporation to change the name Houndsditch but the City wanted to retain the historical associations. The district was, however, moved fro "the E1 postal district to the more dignified EC3" Harold Clunn Stone House and Staple Court Harold Clunn wrote that "Houndsditch was the Cinderella quarter of the City, but of late years several fine buildings have been erected here.

They had shops at ground and lower ground floor levels with office accommodation above. Stone House was Bishopsgate and Houndsditch. Staple Hall was Houndsditch. At 9 Devonshire Row green , by the entrance to Cavendish Court, is the printing house of Edward Newman and Thomas Prichard Newman Until about , you could not only walk from here to Houndsditch along Cavendish Court, but could take an alternative route turning right at the first bend of Cavendish Court into a private pedestrian thoroughfare called Stone House Court.

The other entrance to Stone House Court was on Houndsditch. It was gated and closed to the public outside normal business hours. In numbers 1, 3 and 5 Stone House Court became grade 2 listed buildings. They all had white faience cladding tiles stick on brick or another sub- surface and this was also used in Cavendish Court and on the rears of adjacent brick houses in Devonshire Street Row. I presume there was an intention to give a superficial stone appearance consistent with the Stone House.

Faience is glazed terracotta fired clay and is easy to clean and maintain in smoky environments. The new shop front will not be exactly the same as the old one. Number 3 and 5 Stone House Court are thought to have bene Victorian buildings remodelled with later shop fronts in a similar style to that at Number 1.

Bishopsgate Hounsditch to Bishopsgate: National Westminster Bank and Bishopsgate: Dolcis Shoe Company [ Bishopsgate: Aerated Bread Company Bishopsgate: Devonshire Chambers and Bishopsgate: A terrace of brick warehouses built Bull Public House 8 Devonshire Row: Londn Electricity Board sub station 3 Cavendish Court: Imperial Continental Gas 4 Cavendish Court: Noth East side Stone House 77 and 84 Houndsditch: Mackness postage stamp dir.

Staple Hall 7 Stone House Court: Gare Transit Services In April he said "The city of London, the historic buildings will be there for ever, but around them you could photograph the streets every five years and it would be different. Decision Notice offline - Heron Tower is an office block.

Heron Plaza is an hotel, residential and retail site. Planning and Transportation Committee report offline ? Stone House demolished A google street view of July shows the temporary hole to the sky opened opposite Alderman's Walk, just south of Liverpool Street, by he demolition of Stone House. The author of this one was Tom Nancollas. Euston Square Gardens South , and their trees, removed by property speculators.

Charlotte Mew's first poem of grief at the loss "murder" of the trees. Published January Does anyone know where they have put it? Devonshire House and the books of Quaker discipline It was at Devonshire House in the early 19th century that, every Whitsun, the Quaker women whitened the streets as lilies, and here, in the 19th century, that the printed works of Quaker collective discipline were written under the supervision of the Clerk of Yearly meeting, whose minutes summarised the "feeling of the meeting".

In , the Quakers had begun: Christian and brotherly advices given forth from time by the Yearly meeting in London, alphabetically digested under proper head as handwritten volumes made available to the clerks of the Quarterly and Monthly meetings, in which Quaker meetings were organised in regions and districts.

The first printed book was Extracts from the Minutes and Advices of the Yearly Meeting of Friends held in London from its first Institution , which was agreed by the yearly meeting in and provided with a preface by Meeting for Sufferings on William Tuke was appointed Clerk to yearly meeting in A second edition was issued in Samuel Tuke was Clerk to yearly meeting when the 'Beacon' controversy divided it. The author of A Beacon to the Society of Friends wanted more emphasis on the authority of written words of God the Jewish and Christian Bible , whilst traditional Quakers like Tuke put the emphasis on the workings of the spirit.

Tuke had devoted much of his time to the third edition of Rules of Discipline of the Religious Society of Friends, with Advices: Being Extracts from the Minutes and Epistles of their Yearly Meeting, held in London, from its first institution , printed and published by Darton and Harvey, Gracechurch Street, in with a long introduction "On the origin and establishment of our Christian discipline", written for the occasion by Samuel Tuke.

But, after this, the Society put aside its alphabet. In , book chapters were grouped into three parts: Christian doctrine, Christian practice and Church government. And then, in , yearly meeting finalised what was to be the last revison of the whole book for over a hundred years: Now leased by the Quakers to the Whitechapel District Board of Works, who maintain it as a public recreation ground.

At this time Ratcliff was one of the rural hamlets east of the Tower of London, close to the industry of the river Thames. About land in Ratcliff was bought by Thomas Yoakley on behalf of the Quakers. This was used for a burial ground and a meeting house. Numbers grew and in a sister meeting was established at Wapping. Wapping was part of Ratcliff Monthly Meeting for nearly a hundred years.

Daughter of Isaac Radley of Purleigh in the county of Essex , farmer and Mary his wife, took each other in marriage, in a public assembly of the people called Quakers in Brook Street, Ratcliff in the County of Middlesex.

Farrand Radley , who gives the address as Friends Meeting House, Schoolhouse Lane, E1 Burial-ground - square yards - approached through the house on the south side of the meeting-house. It is neatly kept, and has four small upright stones. Sunday meetings 11am and 6.

Ratcliff still has no building of its own. External link to history of Toynbee Hall In autumn they moved to: Meeting for Worship is held Sunday at Barnet Grove in Bethnal Green Opened.

The street was later renamed Barnet Grove, which became the name of the Quaker meeting established there. The junior Sunday School was full and applicants had had to be refused, but new buildings were being erected. The Adult School for men had an average attendance of thirty-five. A Mission Church had also been formed. This is the building that has since become the office of Quaker Social Action. Friends' Hall, Barnet Grove, E2. Buses 8 and 60 to Barnet Grove.

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