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Didnt you read up about tourists before? Locals in Venice are protesting due to high tourist numbers. We were there in April and there were still a lot of people. But still one of those places someone HAS to see once in their lives I think. Dear bbqboy, thank you for this post regarding my beautiful city.
I appreciated very much the angles of your good looking photos, which allow everybody to see how pretty and balanced is this historic town. I agree that the hype of tourism is harming the image of Lisbon, but our daily life is not affected by that.
The overcrowded places are the touristic ones only. Thanks for your report and come again. You are quite liberal in your interpretation of what I have written. This is the purpose. It grieves me that you had a bad experience in Lisbon, I was born and raised in the suburbs, more specifically in Oeiras. Which, in my opinion, is the most untouched area of Lisbon affected by Tourism.
Firstly, Lisbon has and is increasingly trying to grow for tourists with not only poor constructions btw , and the real lisboetas have increasingly grown tired of the massive tourism that has been swarming in.
Of course, the city centre has much more interest as a tourist, however, all cities do have tourist traps, and in our highest tourist season, it gets even worse. All Portuguese flee out of the city centre during the summer, we are on vacation during this period, and usually go to Algarve also a tourist trap most of the year, but with great beaches or other fantastic places like: Secondly, according to your accommodation, it would have been the best option to not choose that area, since you were staying for a month, and most Portuguese know Bairro Alto as one of the oldest and degraded neighborhoods of the city.
So definitely you caught one of the not so pleasant areas if you had high expectations. In my opinion, Bairro Alto must be one of the worst places to live in, too much noise from the street and neighbors yet again lousy construction , drunkards during the night, since it is a high trend spot for going out at night. You would have experienced more of the beautiful river sightings and could have possibly met with more locals than tourists.
Plus, you would have encountered even more places to visit. But hell if you live in the city centre, how you experienced in Bairro Alto, in order to get around you have these options, like all locals do: And especially now with the rise of tourism it gets even more insuperable and impossible; — or go by car, because we do need cars to get to supermarkets and shopping centres, we are not as central and do not have everything around us, especially where I live. However, during this summer, what I saw most was tourists with new born babies and toddlers so, it proves that it is in fact a safe city.
The funny thing is, they are investing all of the money into tourism, and instead of building something towards the greater good, they are just building poorly on top of the previous one must not forget we are still in a financial crisis.
Especially when this city is well known for our spectacular nearby beaches and castles. What I also think is that tourists come here with the sense that they are visiting Paris, or London, which have been tourists spots for many years.
And i cannot get carried away with this, but i feel most Portuguese feel the same way i do: But most of us are helpful, and you can approach us easily unlike other countries, we will try to speak other languages even if we fail, most tourists come here with the assumption that we should speak french, Italian, Spanish or even English.
But I agree with you about terrible construction — usually old buildings are solid and well insulated. I have never seen in my life a building where you can hear so much noise. Our host said that this is normal in this neigborhood — but I still have a hard time believing it can be as bad as this building was.
It was if the walls and ceiling were made out of cardboard…. Oh yes, I would never say that Lisbon is unsafe. Very safe as you say, we never had worries.
This post is only on Lisbon, I know how beautiful Sintra and other areas of Portugal are I came here many years ago and was very impressed by the beauty. But this post was not about that.
Portuguese people were kind and we were very impressed by their ability to speak different languages and their helpfulness. For a year and a half at least I have constant construction noise during the day. Several buildings are being renewed and the big building you have on your left when you arrive to Miradouro de Sta.
The renewal and reconstruction works become afordable when the revenues of the tourism business are at sight. I have a very small flat. My bedroom is the livingroom, as the interior bedroom of the house is for my daughter. I moved here 14 years ago. But then I think about when I went to Venice for the first time. And about other european capitals. This is Lisboa now. And somehow I like it. I have to live here. So, I might as well like it. Somehow, the city is alive, and well alive.
The real sad thing about this is that Portugal is losing sovereignty as it loses its economical autonomy. Thus the uncontrolled rise of tourism in Lisbon and in other places. Very well written and sad. Thank you for your comment David.
I can only say… wow, and oh. Even if there are a lot of stair, I love great views from above! Then… the last part. As other commenters said, maybe it was the high season… I would still like to visit it, but in the low season! Thanks for all the information! But I have traveled to over 50 countries and this is what I make of it: If you stay in the center of a big city in the peak of summer you will be swarming with tourists.
Any guidebook will tell you so. August in Lisbon is particularly bad as a huge amount of Portuguese are on holidays, they flock to the beaches, etc. Lisbon, in comparison with the majority of European capitals is dirt cheap. This has attracted many more tourists and has pushed locals to suburbs.
I know of many cases where people decide to put their houses on airbnb and moved somewhere else. Your accommodation choice was indeed unfortunate, and I believe that probably made a huge difference.
Bairro Alto is sort of a party all night long neighborhood. Next time try Estrela or Campo de Ourique. This is reflected in the difficulty regarding shopping. The food and restaurant comments are where I would have to disagree most. You can eat spectacularly well in Lisbon for a fraction of the price of most European cities.
Maybe with the tourist surge, not so good places have sprawled up. There are so many fantastic places…! Drop me a line before coming again…. Thank you Philip — but I never I believe made any comments about food and restaurants. We in fact had some very good experiences in a few neighborhood restaurants our favorite was Toscardosa right off Principe Real.
Enjoyed Portuguese food and wine in restaurants but as I say the grocery store story was something else which is something that has been discussed at length in these comments…but that was something else. Unfortunately the apartment was falling apart and was an Airbnb guetto which we realized after a few days. I really appreciated reading your report. One thing you really, really should try sometime soon is to come back in the Autumn or Spring.
And, as with Rome, Paris or Venice, you will find most tourists tend to stick to a handful of streets and monuments, leaving all the rest of the city to explore at will! I agree that for long stays downtown is not the place. With time we did not gave any attention to local grosseries and place everything in those places, also people got out of downtown and started to live in the north part or surroundings of Lisbon, that messed up everything.
Well i definitely think Lisbon is one of the most beautiful cities in the world and with a lot to offer… but March to May are the best times, as well as October-November.
This year June-August i which i could go away, horrible time to be here… i totally understand your rewiew. By the way i do not understand those big waitings to go in the Belem Tower… it has nothing! The best is to look at it! I hope we learn on what is wrong and fix it… but Lisbon is Lisbon, Magical! I think sometimes we are all sheep.
Portugal is a country with people inside; real people who, for almost years, have shapped their towns and cities according to their particular needs, their own sense of aesthetics and their love for them.
Lisbon or any other place in my country was not built and do not exist to satisfy or not your expectations. Our monuments and our Miradouros were not built for you, or any other thirsty turists, to seat there and complain about the amount of other turists who decided, just like you, to visit Portugal.
Thanks for your comment Brites. So, as a tourist and a blogger am I not allowed to mention my opinion on a place? If I had read a post like mine prior to considering Lisbon in August I would have reconsidered the time of year I would have visited. But there are tons of shiny, glossy articles on Lisbon Turkish Airlines had their own feature which we were reading on our flight to Lisbon which write about how beautiful the city is without any mention of tourists, weather, or any travel tips on when to visit.
Judging by the comments on this post, people also like to see real travel experiences, because not all travel experiences come straight out of a travel magazine.
I think some people actually only read the title… As i said come in the Fall or Spring, the idea will be diferent. I think to travel should be to get an idea on how it is a country or city by itself, not for tourist… well Lisbon is changing and being all for tourist and not for itself…that is why is getting less interesting.
Thanks for your input Nuno. Things change quickly and no guide will even tell you unless maybe writing about Venice or Rome how a place is swarming with tourists. I am sorry to hear you had so many problems with your stay in Lisbon! Maybe next time you should visit Porto… It is a beautiful city that will make you fall in love. The city also attracks many toutist, but overall it is easier to walk around and get to see everything it has to offer.
It is a great place for hiking, very quiet and beautiful. I have also been to Madeira and I can promise you will love it!! I was able to walk around freely and talk to many locals. It is amazing to have hot weather down by the ocean and snow at the top of the mountains.
I think there is nothing to dislike about Madeira. Thank you Maria for your suggestions. I know I would love Madeira, have seen some posts on it and it is a great place to hike, the geography seems fantastic. We were in Lisbon when the fires were burning out of control on the island — I hope it recovers quickly. It really is a place that is high on my list to visit. I stumbled across this blog post through your Facebook advertisement, and I have to say, I found it really bizarre.
On the one hand I completely agree with your observation that a few spots throughout the city are completely overrun by tourists in the Summer. This is the information age, you can find pretty much everything online, if you look for it. We try to fit in a place and live much as locals do…obviously some places are easier than others.
And as mentioned in these comments, we were not in the heart of the Bairro Alto where all the bars are, we were on the hill between Praca da Alegria and Principe Real. A nice area in fact where many locals live. Could we have pushed ourselves to do more? What a pity, i think Lisbon is lovely, probably you just had bad luck, sometime it happens.
As a lisboeta, I can tell you that massive tourism is as disagreeable for you as it is for us. The price has gone up just about as much as the noise imagine you lived in that house, surrounded with airbnb…. I am very sorry that people told the nearest store was in Colombo!
They all have those big stores in shopping malls like Colombo and smaller ones around the neighborhoods. Now, people, I have a big favor to ask of you, tourists: The mayor should know that mass tourism is really getting to the tourists themselves and we are not just making this up.
People will eventually get fed up of all the problems and spread word around. Tourism is a big part of our economy and we like showing our lovely city around, but it has to stay a nice place, for you as much as for us.
Do try to come back in another time of the year. There is still a lot to say and see about this city and all around. Thank you so much Helena for the great comment. Tourism is great up to a certain point…but too much of it and it smells like sardines left out in the hot sun for a few days.
Unfortunalety it is true: Many of us used to work in downtown area some years ago, but most of banks and public services buildings are now occupied by hotels and souvenir shops. Most of us now work in Saldanha and Entrecampos, or even Lumiar. Parking the car is just impossible. The apartments are old.
Even my parents moved to the suburbs because they want a quiet place to live. At least in the city centre we have public transportation, not so good but acceptable.
But you are right: The tuk tuk plague is also unbearable — they are very noisy and they have nothing to do with the city. The corrupt politicians got what they wanted: Portugal is more than Lisbon, we have beautiful citys in the north of Portugal.
I would like to make an analogy: Anyway, just thought I would throw that out there. Hopefully, over time Lisbon will be able to adapt and not become a victim of its own success. As a Lisboner, I live uptown and seldom go downtown. I am always surprised to see that most visitors stick to the latter. You seem to have had a bit of that experience when you mention going to the gym.
Well, better luck next time, I guess but do avoid the tourist invaded areas. We try to balance out the locals vs tourist thing when choosing a location because you want to not be too far from sights while also having all the commodities you need living as a local.
I agree that if you are staying more than a week, it is better to stay just outside the city center near a metro. I am sad that you did not have a good experience, but considering you stayed a month I would have that you visit surrounding areas by train — ex SIntra and Mafra.
Also a weekend trip to Porto or Coimbra would have been nice. I agree with the comments talking about august being a bad choice, but not just because it is when other tourists are visiting.. So its normal that you only saw tourists because all the locals were gone. Also not a lot of people actually live in the bairro alto downtown area, i think mostly the old people who have lived there all their lives, so mostly people live in surrounding areas or even suburbs, which adds to the tourist factor.
Plus, a lot of those old charming buildings are built in a paper thin walls kind of way, portuguese people typically complain about their noisy neighbours, and often we look forward to living in a house so we dont have to worry about that.
I grew up with my parents complaining about noisy neighbours. But when i lived in London it was pretty similar, I could hear their loud noises too.. So i think it was more like a bad airbnb and poor timing. I think you would love it the next time you visit seen as you would have this experience to guide you away from the bad spots. Regardless though, you will not likely have the same exact experience you had 25 years ago because the city has changed and evolved and grown.
Like all cities do i guess. Soo it would always be different even if you visited regularly! I hope as a portuguese person, that you come back and love it. We like people liking our country! Thank you Olga for the kind comment. Maybe this one was especially bad, it was almost like someone else was walking around in our bedroom.
I just stayed in the barrio alto for 1 night booked for 3 but left after 1. And the paper thin walls has continued at a couple hotels. I realise that tourism has indeed increased a lot in recent years and there is a real danger of ruining the whole experience.
But the good thing about people sharing their experiences is that other people planning to visit can benefit from it and plan their trip to have the best time possible.
The weather is nice almost all year, and that way you can also avoid the prices during high season and the establishments that are closed or understaffed because of the summer holidays. Both are so beautiful and exquisite, it would most certainly have made a difference on your opinion. Thanks for the feedback Ana, hope you enjoyed Budapest one of our favorite cities!
So we decided to save our money and go to a nice restaurant instead. I understand your point of view, and guess what? Nevertheless, i feel sorry for several stuff: Every portuguese are in vacation in august, so, you cannot met locals. Waaayyyy to hot to be in a city. The best thing for me, is that days are big, so I can drink a beer with my friends after work. There are, in Sintra, so much to see and, in my opinion, so much beatifull places and chepear!
Of course everybody is free to tell about their own experience and report whatever they felt. But choosing to visit Lisbon in the high season at its peak is like visiting most important capital cities at the same time: Try to visit the Louvre in August…. So, as experienced travellers you might have wanted to choose some other period maybe May?! Before choosing an acommodation I always look for the best places and quarters: As far as old neighbourhoods are concerned you might have wanted to look for Castelo or Mouraria, or some other quieter and more modern parts of town, these latter ones with quick access to the center by underground.
Did you really think the 28 would be free for you alone in august? As far as criminality rates go, Lisbon is one of the safest cities in Europe! The charm of Lisbon resides in its hills and old neighbourhoods, the beautiful estuary of the Tagus, the bridges, the close relationship with the river, its hospitable and mostly smiling people, its great food and wine, its bright blue sky, its unique lighting, the seaside resorts and beautiful beaches in the vicinity, and the surroundings like Sintra and other beautiful places.
Maybe some other time you should try to plan ahead where to stay and do, or try an isolated, lonely, tourist-free city in order to have a less annoying experience. Thanks Fernando, Many of your points have been addressed before: As many locals themselves have stated in these comments, that is seriously lacking in central Lisbon. That was my point. Sevilla, where we are now, impresses me much more than Lisbon. Sounds like you had rotten luck with your Airbnb in Lisbon!
I visited Lisbon with my boyfriend earlier this month because until that point we only visited Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation and the Zoo school fieldtrips , and we felt like we needed to visit the capital of our country at least once in our lives. Although we loved visiting Lisbon, I agree with a lot of what you wrote in this post. Lisbon felt like a foreign city to us.
It was more common to listen people speaking english, french, spanish and other languages, than to listen portuguese. While visiting monuments and such, here were more times we were actually greeted in english rather than portuguese… Something that also bothered us was the smell in the majority of the streets.
If you visit Lisbon you have to go the the other side of the river and visit Cristo Rei statue in Almada. There are a few good restaurants in Cacilhas, Almada. You can also visit Costa de Caparica if you like surfing. And also Sintra, have you been there? Keep up the good work. I think there is a misunderstanding because we DID like the food and wine in Portugal!
Sintra no — I was there 25 years ago it was incredible but there were too many tourists this time so we did not go. Thank you for your comment!
More about us here http: Very childish and superficial. Lisbon does not need you, stay away all year long. Mind you, we visited in May, I think. The Airbnb conundrum is a tricky one. If those had been for a month, it would have been excruciating.
I still far prefer Aribnb to a hotel. We usually do our research and do quite well, have had very few bad experiences…the one in Lisbon was our worst. But it is also worrying when entire neighborhoods get filled with short term apartments and as some people have said, it ruins neighborhoods and raises prices across the bar for locals.
Keep in mind that a lot of us speak two languages at least but the older generation will probably speak french many fled the country during the Estado Novo — the longest dictatorship in Europe while the younger generations will know proper English.
Lisbon has become a terrible example of Portugal. So again, stay away from the city centre if you can. Portuguese love their cars. My neighborhood is almost a ghost town on the weekends.
In Lisboa most groceries and local shops vanished because of that and the bangladeshi and pakistani moved in. Even so, you still have municipal markets in most of the city neighborhood centre where you can buy cheap and fresh groceries. But if you need more specific stuff like creams or diapers… yeah.. Lisbon is beautiful as a whole experience.
Madeira is pretty and all but is like an Ibiza for families, it lives for tourism. The Azores isles are terrific and a great place to hike, ride a bicycle offroad or whale watching but bring your drivers license — again very few public transports outside Lisbon and Porto.
Spot on in your description of the Portuguese. On the first day there I struggled finding a grocery store and ran into a policeman. For 10 minutes we went over a map together and he pointed me in the right direction.
Very helpful people, good English language skills unlike Spain and France. Very different kind of Latinos as you say and you put our impressions into words. Traffic dies on the weekends in many parts of Central Lisbon. And another reason, as some have pointed out, that no large grocery stores are in central Lisbon — locals get in their cars, drive to a shopping center, and stock up.
Of course Lisbon has flaws, maybe a lot of flaws, as all the places have. I also travel, I also have bad experiences with particular things, accomodations, whatever, but I always look at what I lived and brought of positive.
Mumbai in India is a very dirty place, but is that what I have to retain in memory when I go there? You had a long stay in Lisbon, but did you really get to know Lisbon? Then, in Lisbon itself, a month should have given you the chance not only to visit the main attractions and spots, but also look for the local cultural vibe, which is intense, students and young people from all over the world, music, urban art.
Even this week I showed Lisbon to two brazilian friends that were here and they loved it, everyday morning they wanted to go out and asked me to take them to more places in the old town.
Anyone who reads your page stays with an impression that is far from reality, even considering some bad points in Lisbon that you mentioned and that are true. But look at the scale and see where did you put much more weight.
Even in basic aspects: The main question is: Of course Lisbon has them. I was robbed in Florence and in Compostela. Florence is beautiful, is it that what I have to retain from being there?
And the system transportation in Florence compared to Lisbon? And the tons of tourists in Florence, the queues to visit everything? Is it that the most important in the whole experience, especially for someone that really enjoys travelling and meeting different natural, historical and cultural landscapes? You were so centered on disliking Lisbon that somewhere it was even mentioned the heat in Lisbon… in August… in the south of Europe.
I went to Florence in August and I had to wet my sandals in the fountains. A traveller must have an open mind, must be prepared to leave some things behind in order to take full advantage of all the experiences that he lives and that are the most important thing to keep and preserve for life.
Thank you for the comment Hugo. I also state that the time of year had much to do with our feelings, that Lisbon is best seen at another time of year. Many comments from locals indicate that tourism has exploded in past years. Guidebooks and magazines just want to sell a destination.
No, not at all. Besides, this post was on Lisbon itself. I think reading this might help others consider visiting a different time of year.
Lisbon is not perfect no city is but I think this was a dead on bashing. To clarify, obviously your opinion as a traveller counts but here are some things that you probably dont know, even after staying for some months:. Lisbon is the safest Capital city in Europe and all American cities for that matter.
Lisbon is the cheapest of all Western European Capitals and all American cities for that matter. A little bit more of historic sensibility wont harm… No other Capital city in Europe boasts as many beaches, and all year around good weather. Try Paris or Madrid for that matter…. Obviously, people , when travelling tend to criticise and compare the things they experience with their own way of thinking and perspective but travelling should educate you on that…things are not there to cater to you.
Things are there because they are, take it or leave it. All very good points although I never mentioned anything about safety nor am I American. But I can understand how people can be sensitive to criticism of their cities. The explanation for the lack or even absence of amenities in downtown Lisbon is very easy to explain: The middle class has been systematically barred from living in the city because of housing prices always and forever beyond their grasp.
But the last nail in the coffin came with this extremely recent, virtual invasion of hordes of tourists. With them came a huge wave of gentrification which ensured that the last, most of them old people living in the centre got booted out to make way for guest houses, hostels and hotels.
That is also the reason these days Lisbon is full of cranes, amidst this frenzy of renovation. I know now to avoid August travelwise because of the obvious neverending queues of tourists everywhere. Having been to most countries in Europe, including their capitals, I can safely say Lisbon is better than most in that respect.
Coupled with the fact that the Portuguese choose that same month to go on holiday. I have to agree with you when it comes to the lack of supermarkets and similar stores downtown, but I do have to add that the concept of a drugstore is something completely outdated around here. People buy their hygiene or beauty products either at the supermarket or at specialized stores if you want better brands. You got an AirBnB in the most chaotic area of the city, you went to all the sightseeing spots and main monuments.
Why not a tour around the beautiful and diverse gardens? Why not stay in pleasant neighbourhoods where locals actually live? I would like you to know that we, the locals, are everywhere in this city: I really hope you come back and this time, try to actually go around as a local. Try forums, Facebook, Reddit, whatever puts you in contact with people that can tell you where to start.
By the way, I hosted a foreign friend during August and tried to show her around the city and it was a terrible experience, mostly because of the reasons the previous commenter stated local people are on vacation elsewhere, a lot of places are closed or catering for tourists only, huge queues everywhere.
Hope to see you soon! Actually we did lots of walking in different parts of the city. But as I say, the Portuguese were always helpful. I myself would be fed up if my city was trampled upon by hordes of tourists we have that in Montreal but only in select areas.
It was quite interesting to read your trip report on Lisbon and the comments that others made. There are fewer local residents than ever before, most of the current residents are either well-off and live in the noble areas of the city, or are from the lower income classes and live in social housing or rent protected housing. Facilities like small supermarkets and shops disappeared from most neighbourhoods.
The construction of large shopping malls and hypermarkets on the outskirts of Lisbon, killed off the traditional or small scale shops that existed on most streets. Entire streets are occupied by hotels and dodgy apartments, catering for transient visitors. Tourism is important to the city, everyone agrees, but in Lisbon, unregulated tourism is exploding to a degree that is damaging the city and its already deficient transport infrastructure. There are beggars everywhere, parading every kind of disability for a few coins.
Even blind people lost all self respect and scour the underground trains begging for change. Overall, tourism as it is right now, might be good for some property developes, hoteliers and the tax authorities, but for Lisbon residents, this is hell. There is a thing or two that Lisbon could learn from Porto! Thanks for the comment, always good to hear from someone from the outside who chose to live there and has seen the changes.
Good to know about Porto! Interesting to hear your point of view. I have just come from Lisbon and did not have a great experience. What you describe is happening everywhere. Of course I see it in many cities but in Lisbon it just seemed like it had been taking to the extreme. It felt like Lisbon had jumped the shark. Thank you for your comment MP.
Also good to know about Porto. I have also been in Lisbon for a little while — arrived in the summer, but within 5 or so days I found a larger super market in the centre, and some cheap resturants and pubs. I did a lot a prep before arriving here though. As a serial traveller, do you research a lot before going or try and pick up any of the language? Of course I know Europe is busy in the summer, but the effect is very different depending on the city.
And has plenty high quality Services and places to offer to interesting visitors unlike you. Trump proves, class and money have nothing to do with each other. Most of Europe we enjoyed during winter which was mild compared with the US weather wise, but much more manageable as far as tourists go. Having a bad accommodation experience just colors everything When we get a bad one, we cut our losses and leave.
Otherwise it taints the experience of a place which is a shame. You are very right Peta. It was basically a glorified corner store with no fresh meat or fish. Great for a tourist but we found it unlivable for a slow traveller. Very disappointing because we really had high hopes for Lisbon. In the first and third person singular, the personal infinitive appears no different from the unconjugated infinitive.
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A number of irregular verbs in Portuguese change the main vowel to indicate differences between first and third person singular: Spanish maintains such a difference only in fui 'I was' vs fue 'he was'.
In all other cases, one of the two vowels has been regularized throughout the conjugation and a new third-person ending -o adopted: Contrarily, Spanish maintains many more irregular forms in the future and conditional: Portuguese has only three: Spanish has restored - e by analogy with other verbs: The same type of analogy accounts for fiz vs hice 'I did' in the past tense.
In nouns such as paz 'peace', luz 'light', amor 'love', etc. In Spanish the prepositions a 'to' and de 'of, from' form contractions with a following masculine singular definite article el 'the': This kind of contraction is much more extensive in Portuguese, involving the prepositions a 'to' , de 'of, from' , em 'in' , and por 'for' with articles and demonstratives regardless of number or gender.
Both are generally [a] in most of Brazil, although in some accents such as carioca and florianopolitano there may be distinction. Additionally, the prepositions de and em combine with the demonstrative adjectives and pronouns as shown below:.
The neuter demonstrative pronouns isto 'this' isso , aquilo 'that' likewise combine with de and em — thus, disto , nisto , etc. The Portuguese contractions mentioned thus far are obligatory. Contractions can also be optionally formed from em and de with the indefinite article um , uma , uns , umas , resulting in num , numa , dum , duma , etc.
Spanish employs a preposition, the so-called "personal a ", before the direct object of a transitive verb except tener when it denotes a specific person s , or domestic pet ; thus Veo a Juan 'I see John'; Hemos invitado a los estudiantes 'We've invited the students.
Quite common in both languages are the prepositions a which often translates as "to" and para which often translates as "for". However, European Portuguese and Spanish distinguish between going somewhere for a short while versus a longer stay, especially if it is an intended destination, in the latter case using para instead of a. While there is no specified duration of stay before a European Portuguese speaker must switch prepositions, a implies one will return sooner, rather than later, relative to the context.
This distinction is not made in English and Brazilian Portuguese [ citation needed ]. In Spanish the distinction is not made if the duration is given in the context maybe implicitly , and in this case a is generally preferred.
Note, though, in the first example, para could be used in Portuguese if in contrast to a very brief period of time. In informal, non-standard Brazilian Portuguese, em in its original form or combined with a given article in a contraction, yielding no , na , numa , etc.
In Spanish hasta has the same meaning and function. Spanish has two prepositions of direction: Of them, only para exists in Portuguese, covering both meanings. Colloquially, para is often reduced in both languages: Portuguese pra , in turn, may join with the definite article: Both languages have a construction similar to the English "going-to" future. Spanish includes the preposition a between the conjugated form of ir "to go" and the infinitive: Usually, in Portuguese, there is no preposition between the helping verb and the main verb: This also applies when the verb is in other tenses:.
While as a rule the same prepositions are used in the same contexts in both languages, there are many exceptions. The traditional Spanish alphabet had 28 letters, while the Portuguese had Modern versions of recent years added k and w found only in foreign words to both languages.
Portuguese also added y for loanwords. With the reform in by the 10th congress of the Association of Spanish Language Academies, Spanish alphabetization now follows the same pattern as that of other major West European languages.
Prior to this date, however, the digraphs ch and ll were independently alphabetized. For example, the following surnames would be put in this order: Many Spanish dictionaries and other reference material still exist using the pre-reform rule of alphabetization. Only in Spanish do interrogatives and exclamations use the question mark or exclamation point respectively at the beginning of a sentence.
The same punctuation marks are used, but these are inverted. This prepares the reader in advance for either a question or exclamation type of sentence. On the other hand, in Portuguese, a person reading aloud lengthy sentences from an unfamiliar text may have to scan ahead to check if what at first appears to be a statement, is actually a question.
Otherwise, it would be too late to enable proper voice inflection. Neither language has the equivalent of the auxiliary verb to do , which is often used to begin a question in English. Both Spanish and English can place the verb before the subject noun to indicate a question, though this is uncommon in Portuguese, and almost unheard of in Brazil. Aside from changes of punctuation in written language, in speech, converting any of the above examples from a question to a statement would involve changes of both intonation and syntax in English and Spanish, but intonation only in Portuguese.
The palatal consonants are spelled differently in the two languages. King Denis of Portugal , who established Portuguese instead of Latin as the official language, was an admirer of the poetry of the troubadours and a poet himself.
Examples include names such as Port. Mi nh o Sp. The exact pronunciation of these three consonants varies somewhat with dialect. The table indicates only the most common sound values in each language. A similar phenomenon can be found in some dialects of Brazilian Portuguese e. It always represents the "soft c " sound, namely [ s ]. Both languages use diacritics to mark the stressed syllable of a word whenever it is not otherwise predictable from spelling.
Since Spanish does not differentiate between mid-open and mid-close vowels and nasal vowels , it uses only one accent, the acute. Without the accent, as in Spanish, the last syllable would be a diphthong: Parag uai Portuguese and Parag uay Spanish 'Paraguay'. These do not alter the rules for stress, though note endings - im , - ins and - um , - uns are stressed, as are their non-nasal counterparts see below. A couple of two-letter words consist of only the nasal vowel: Phonetic vowel nasalization occurs in Spanish—vowels may get slightly nasalized in contact with nasal consonants—but it is not phonemically distinctive.
In Portuguese, on the other hand, vowel nasalization is distinctive, and therefore phonemic: Portuguese changes vowel sounds with and without accents marks. Spanish pronunciation makes no such distinction. In other cases, it is the combination of the preposition and the feminine definite article; in other words, the equivalent of a la 'to the' in Spanish. As the Portuguese grave accent, the trema does not indicate stress. The accentuation rules including those of predictable stress of Portuguese and Spanish are similar, but not identical.
Discrepancies are especially pervasive in words that contain i or u in their last syllable. Note the Portuguese diphthongs ei and ou are the approximate Spanish equivalent of e and o respectively, but any word ending with these diphthongs is, by default, stressed on its final syllable. Compare the following pairs of cognates, where the stress falls on the same syllable in both languages:. Semivowel—vowel sequences are treated differently in both languages when it comes to accentuation rules.
A sequence of a semivowel adjacent to a vowel is by default assumed to be read as a diphthong part of the same syllable in Spanish, whereas it is by default assumed to be read as a hiatus belonging to different syllables in Portuguese. For both languages, accentuation rules consistently indicate something other than the default. A consequence of this is that words that are pronounced alike in both languages are written according to different accentuation rules.
Another consequence though less common is that some words are written exactly or almost exactly the same in both languages, but the stress falls on different syllables:. Although the vocabularies of Spanish and Portuguese are similar at times identical , the two languages differ phonologically from each other, very likely because of the stronger Celtic substratum  in Portuguese.
Phonetically Portuguese bears similarities to French and to Catalan while the phonetics of Spanish are more comparable to those of Sardinian and Sicilian. Portuguese has a significantly larger phonemic inventory than Spanish.
This may partially explain why it is generally not very intelligible to Spanish speakers despite the lexical similarity between the two languages. One of the main differences between the Spanish and Portuguese pronunciation are the vowel sounds.
Dialectally, there are Spanish dialects with a greater number of vowels, with some as Murcian and Eastern Andalusian reaching up to 8 to 10 vowel sounds. This appears to be, similarly to French, a Celtic  phonological adaptation to Latin. Portuguese, as Catalan, uses vowel height, contrasting stressed and unstressed reduced vowels.
The following considerations are based on a comparison of standard versions of Spanish and Portuguese. Apparent divergence of the information below from anyone's personal pronunciation may indicate one's idiolect or dialect diverges from the mentioned standards.
Comparing the phonemic inventory of the two languages, a noticeable divergence stands out.
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