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The land comprising what is now Jersey City was inhabited by the Lenape , a collection of tribes later called Delaware Indian. After spending nine days surveying the area and meeting its inhabitants, he sailed as far north as Albany. Michael Reyniersz Pauw received a land grant as patroon on the condition that he would establish a settlement of not fewer than fifty persons within four years.
This grant is dated November 22, and is the earliest known conveyance for what are now Hoboken and Jersey City. Pauw, however, was an absentee landlord who neglected to populate the area and was obliged to sell his holdings back to the Company in Relations with the Lenape deteriorated, in part because of the colonialist's mismanagement and misunderstanding of the indigenous people, and led to series of raids and reprisals and the virtual destruction of the settlement on the west bank.
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After this war, Alexander Hamilton and other prominent New Yorkers and New Jerseyeans attempted to develop the area that would become historic downtown Jersey City and laid out the city squares and streets that still characterize the neighborhood, giving them names also seen in Lower Manhattan or after war heroes Grove, Varick, Mercer, Wayne, Monmouth, and Montgomery among them.
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Reclaiming the natural river front, which included all that section of Hudson Street lying between Essex and Wayne Streets. Tens of millions of immigrants passed through these stations as they made their way westward from Ellis Island into the United States. Jersey City was a dock and manufacturing town for much of the 19th and 20th centuries.
In , the first permanent, drinking water disinfection system in the U. The Black Tom explosion occurred on July 30, , as an act of sabotage on American ammunition supplies by German agents to prevent the materials from being used by the Allies in World War I.
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None were able to duplicate the level of power held by Hague,  but the city and the county remained notorious for political corruption for years. Beginning in the s, development of the waterfront in an area previously occupied by rail yards and factories helped to stir the beginnings of a renaissance for Jersey City. The rapid construction of numerous high-rise buildings increased the population and led to the development of the Exchange Place financial district, also known as " Wall Street West ", one of the largest banking centers in the United States.
Simultaneous to this building boom, the light-rail network was developed. The bill impacts all businesses employing workers who work at least 80 hours a calendar year in Jersey City. In November , Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump made the claim that "thousands and thousands" of Muslims in Jersey City cheered as they watched the Twin Towers burn after their collapse during the September 11 terrorist attacks , and used the unsubstantiated allegation as justification for his proposal that certain mosques in the United States should be monitored by authorities.
Jersey City includes most of Ellis Island. Its north-south axis corresponds with the ridge of Bergen Hill , the emergence of the Hudson Palisades. Historic Downtown is an area of mostly low-rise buildings to the west of the waterfront that is highly desirable due to its proximity to local amenities and Manhattan. It includes the neighborhoods of Van Vorst Park and Hamilton Park , which are both square parks surrounded by brownstones.
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Sadly, religion the holier-than-thou, bible thumping kind has a lot to do with this. Petty religious people hide behind their bibles because they think that gives them the right to pretend they are better than anyone else. If I was the father of that young lady I would have taken her right back and made a huge stink, security or not.
This is an idea also present in other religious systems too, unfortunately Islam at least, maybe Hinduism too? I hear blaming women for rape is a big problem in India. Clare, thank you so much for the share. The patriarchy is torn every time we dare to have a voice.
Continue speaking, reflecting, and acting against injustice in all forms and fashions, no pun intended. Clare — So sorry you had to go through such an outrageous ordeal.
The adults in the situation should be ashamed of themselves. And that has pros and cons, but the unrelenting sexism AND racism will converge to a level where students will simply refuse to participate in parent and school sanctioned events.
Clare, this is so wrong and it triggered memories of my experiences as a teen. Keep that dress and wear it again and again because you look beautiful in it. My daughter attended a very conservative college and that was their rule re: So this really resonates. Clare, I am so impressed by your clear-headed and dignified response to a very unfair situation. I am sorry that your special night was ruined by some small-minded control freaks. Thank you for calling it out and I hope that, by bringing attention to what happened, you have made a difference for some younger girls.
Best of luck to you at college. I have nothing against interracial couples, but do you think they might have had a problem with you being a pretty white girl with an African American male that made them more so upset instead of your dress and just used that as an excuse to kick you and your date out?
Love has no limit. Only idiots like the chaperones at this prom seem to think so. I had the same thought. There could be a lot of levels of terrible going on here. I think you may be on to something. I hate to agree with this possible scenario…. If u keep defending that u were kicked out for ultimately dressing within their code given, 1 of them will finally bust out with a piece of truth IF the racial aspect was truly a cause of your dismissal….
I just want to say that I thought of that, too — especially a blonde young lady making a presence in a room with a very mature looking not inappropriately — I assume he is around also black man, if at least subconsciously that was the issue the mouth-breathing, middle aged dads were having. I will point out that she said HE bought the tickets and brought HER to prom, which would say to me he is also homeschooled and part of their association.
Our girls mostly had Vanna White-looking sequined dresses in hot pink and lime green that were backless, low cut and everything else. They made the girls with more classy and original dresses look all the better. The people behind me were upset with interracial couples — black boys and white girls, moreso than they were white boys and Latina girls.
For one, I wished they would shut up and almost said something, but my daughter might never have forgiven me for making a scene. Who are the boys supposed to date, even if we object to interracial relationships, which is, of course, wrong? Adults should at the very least have to speak to young people with integrity and name their claim. Otherwise, how can we expect it of them.
Yeah, that dress, while cute, is actually pretty modest. Singling it out makes no sense at all. So I have to wonder about a racial motivation in addition to the creepy misogyny. I have the same feeling, this is a lovely young woman, but nothing about her makes me want to stop and ogle. Nothing is busting out or overly accentuated, she looks nice. There really seams to be something else at play here. I went to my senior prom with a guy who was my best friend at the time. We got some funny looks at the very nice restaurant where we had dinner before the dance, but that was as far as it went.
You looked beautiful for your prom, your date was dashing, and there is nothing of which either of you should feel ashamed. I doubt I could have done half so well at Good luck with getting the further refunds! As a girl with a long body, big bum, and short arms I am weirdly proportioned. I am ok with this. Would the prom organisers be ok with that? Similarly, girls with longer legs may well be wearing a dress which passes this rule, but by nature of having more leg to show than a shorter girl, are classed as showing too much.
Because seriously, that dress is awesome, your sister looked fabulous, and I hope she gets the chance to wear it again soon!
I have a long torso, too, and got away with some pretty short skirts and dresses in high school because of the fingertip rule I always wore anything that short with opaque tights, at least. It does seem pretty subjective. I have long legs and short torso. They need to just say the dresses need to be x inches from the knee. My name Nicholas Tabachuk.
Jessye Rae Tabachuk husband. They believe that there is nothing that can be done legally because it is a home school event. Which undoubtedly offended the wives and women that were chaperones as well.
The fact you were singled out prior to any foul language or foul acts proves there was a vendetta formed from the very beginning. Aside from just the reimbursement for your groups tickets, there are several things that bed to be imbued as well. These things include the cost of the clothing for the evening, transportation, and any other funds incurred by your group. I, taking psychology three years in college learned megalomania is a huge part of home schooling their children and sheltering them from the real world.
It is not fair your name will be flung through the mud as if you brought methamphetamine and started an orgy. And the fact that you did not sign a document about their dress code, in which you did follow, leaves the door open for something huge. Now I can not get into those finer details on a public forum but if you contact my wife, I can go over these huge options with you. Some include action against the male chaperones. Some include action against this miss dee.
If others are willing to testify to the actions of other attendees and the non discipline from the male chaperones, than it grows even larger. How can anyone be proud to be a member of one of the most violent and morally depraved criminal organisations in the word. Catholics donates more to charity than any other organization in the history of the world. Also, they operate 1 out of 4 hospitals in the world.
Think before you post. Yes, and for sure, that means ALL Catholics are violent and morally depraved. Hmm, here people are debating the potential reasons for discrimination against this young girl, and you all are going to to paint all Catholics with the broad brush of violence and depravity? Sorry, Robert Lentink and Walrus — neither of you have any credibility.
He said they belong to a depraved organization. Its not just Catholics. Every organizations has bad people involved. They have the real group that wants peace AND the extremest.
Americans automatically claim the group is a terrorist group because of one sector. The church covered it up and gave the offenders more children to molest, you are as bad as they are for minimizing their crimes. The Catholic church is a criminal organization. You cannot blame a whole organization for certain individuals actions. Thats like giving a detention to the whole class because two students acted up.
The Catholic Church including up to the ex-Pope in his function as the head of the Inquisition systematically covered up the abuse. Instead of dealing with it and preventing future abuse, they shielded the abusers and moved them around. Or moved them to the Vatican to prevent their arrest. Or moved around money to prevent payouts to the victims. To this day they obstruct justice at every turn. Yes, other organizations have sexual abuse too. A few even cover it up.
But the law eventually holds them accountable. Not so with the Catholic Church. Because organized religion is above the law. Never mind the countless other crimes against humanity the Catholic Church has committed throughout its existence. The first formal statement on sexual abuse of children by clerics was in 60 CE. He said absolutely nothing about individual Catholics, he simply expressed an inability to understand how someone could be proud to be a part of an organisation that has a DENSE history of unsolicited religious wars, covering up the sexual assaults of children, propagating outright misogyny and bigotry, money laundering, YOU NAME IT.
Okay sweets, your reading skills need help then too because i already replied to your other post before you copied and pasted it. No hun I replied to another comment above by Woofgang , in which they clearly needed help understanding what Robert actually said, and my comment to you the one directly above your comment was a reply to your comment in which you also clearly need help understanding the words that were said in the original comment.
The comment your originally replied to was not meant for you, it was meant for Woofgang. The original poster did not say members of the Catholic church were morally depraved, etc. He was talking about the Vatican, the Catholic organisation.
Just because the government is greedy and morally depraved does not make every single person in the United States greedy and morally depraved. I can say that almost every single Pope that has ever taken seat in the Vatican has been a tyrant against progress and justice and morality. How can you support an organisation that refuses to let women have any leadership and then comment on a post like this that is talking about the effects of patriarchal systems such as the gendered hierarchy within the Catholic church?
THAT is what the original poster is saying. All that charity comes with strings attached. Such as refusing to let babies be adopted by same-sex couples. There are bad people who happen to be Catholic. This does not mean Catholics are bad people.
Use a little common sense. LOL your reading skills need help…. Maybe tomorrow my church as a whole will go molest people for fun.
Get over the past and look at the now. My family is Catholic and they are amazing people, far from thieving and violent. AGAIN, your ignorance and intolerance is showing.
If you want to argue semantics, go ahead. What he said was offensive. No less offensive than someone saying Muslims are a terrorist organization who are violent and discriminatory against women. An organization is in and of itself not violent or morally depraved.
An organization is not a living thing. Did I write that Catholics are bad people? I said their organization, their governing body is criminal. The fact that they had male chaperones sitting in a balcony looking down on you like some piece of meat also is another base for a lovely suit.
This was never about the rules, or even dancing. It was about the green eyed monster some of the women at the event had because you looked amazing and they wished they could look that way again or have those men looking at them that way. I would pursue this because they took from you what was supposed to be a wonderful night because of their own personal flaws. D she would have no other option than to have me arrested for disorderly conduct.
That was something that stood out to me as being an uncomfortable situation. Having men standing above and look down on the group, as a women who is anything but small could see down my shirt and my chest unless I wore a turtle neck. I really think there was an issue with the adult men getting turned on by the young women and for one reason or another she was singled out and sent home. It was a private paid function, the group essentially stole their time and money from these teens. At the very least taking them to small claims court will cause them to have to expend time of their own, not to mention a hassle, maybe it will force them to pay up and refund the money, at most stop being so stupid.
I really hope all the parents raised one hell of a stink. We are behind you with support and love. This episode with all its legalistic standards is hilariously paradoxical, considering what high school prom has come to offer: Why mandate dress length when the purpose is to cast off limits anyway? Five years ago, dresses would have been four fingers above the knee, with buttock-high out of the question.
Why is fingertip length so important now? And whose fingertips, anyway? Do you find that creepy? Maybe the kickers-out were not protecting themselves from lust so much as you from their creepy vibe. You love that dress, not because you love yourself in it, but because certain others love or hate you in it.
You want to be singular without being singled out. You want to conform and yet stand out. You want the power that comes with being desired, but you want to be desired only by the ones you find desirable and be invisible to the rest.
On the other hand, Clare, you could have suffered a fate much worse than what actually befell: Yeah, any man who oogles teen ass without feeling like an idiot is really immature. Most men grow up enough not feel compelled to oogle at every nice ass they see. No matter how nice it is. My conservative homeschooling parents were both Rejectors of Patriarchy, and my politics and faith are much more similar to theirs than is the case for most of my peers raised in patriarchal homes.
Read that over and over and over again. Is there shame for committing the sin of lust? Is there any shred of acknowledgement of what the Patriarchy claims is a pervasive evil? The only men who are made to feel shame for their lust are young, attractive men.
The older men feel perfectly free to lust because the lust of a young attractive man is usually welcomed by attractive young women. The lust of a disgusting, repressed geezer, on the other hand, is abhorred by young women. Therefore, it is a useful tool for controlling young attractive women. What about those deemed unattractive? Those women have none of the power over the feelings and actions of males that these men have a paralyzing fear of. So here before us is the paradox of Patriarchy.
Lust is evil in young, not-yet-mature men but perfectly fine in old, supposed-to-be-the-spiritual-leaders-but-obviously-has-tons-of-holes-in-their-umbrella men. A TEENAGE girl dressing in a way that was never specified as wrong by the Bible is evil, but the command from Jesus to men to not commit adultery by lusting in his heart over a woman does not pertain to older supposed-to-be-mature males who are usually MARRIED and, therefore, in the only kind of status that is capable of committing adultery.
Yet we women are the emotional beings who need to be controlled? What are resources are you using? This simply could have been made up by you. Did YOU go to high school? Sorry your prom was a disaster. Its on them not you. They have a problem. By legal definition if they lust after a child under 18 yrs of age, they are child molesters. It was the women who did the shaming and exhibited the truly sexist behavior. Lusting after an adolescent happens. Some adolescents look like adults. What makes one a child molester is, you know, molesting a child.
As another tall gorgeous woman, I am too often met by women who have a sense of inferiority, especially upon first meeting. Even though their feelings and beliefs about themselves are not my personal responsibility, I do love creating and nurturing the experience of the human connection. I wish for people to feel at ease with me. Hence, my desire to assure a woman that she has no need for her walls.
Step beyond a womans walls, and you can relish in the pure sunshine that she may not even know shines from within her. I have found that the very best thing I can do to prove to women that they have no need for making assumptions in regards to me, is treat them with genuine resect and love.
We are equals, after all. It is a true sadness to me when I encounter a woman who will not see herself as my peer. Something tells me that Mrs. D had always dreamt of looking and feeling as gorgeous as you did that night, Clare. But on the occasion that she got that chance, someone somewhere. It would seem that whomever that person s was tragically succeeded in their pursuits. This way they can take comfort in the fact that they are not alone in their misery.
I do not wish to create excuses for Mrs. D, only to express that my heart goes out to her and those who would support her beliefs and actions. The epidemic regarding rape culture is highly promoted, vouched for, believed in, and fiercely stood by. Particularly by the victims thereof.
I applaud you Clare for not only refusing to stand among the victims, but for also spreading awareness on the matter. You were absolutely beautiful for prom night, and you have a great group of friends. Your generation is not going to put up with this garbage. I was shamed as a college girl for wearing sweat pants in my own dorm. A guy from church had dropped by unannounced, and I had just returned from jogging. He wanted me to change. I felt as if I had done something bad, although logically how could i even know that after 9pm I would get a surprise visit, or that baggy gey sweatpants are sexy?
Or maybe i am just a godess. My point is — I took all the shame on myself. Your generation is going a different direction and I am very glad for you. I would like to tell you that you are nothing short of amazing.
I am proud of you for standing up for yourself and deeply ashamed of those at the prom who objectified you and shamed you. No one should make you feel ashamed for being a woman.
No one should make you feel like your height, your curves, or anything else about your body is anything to hide. No one should shame you for wearing a pretty dress! Clare, get an attorney and sue the living shit out of that lady, and everyone else involved. Make them pay dearly for ruining your only senior prom.
The rules of the game are different. Clare paid for a ticket. She detrimentally relied- by buying a dress, paying for a limo, etc- on the promise that she would be able to attend and enjoy this event, so long as she stuck to the rules.
She was thrown out, but not for violating the rules. Unlike a baseball game, there was nothing on her ticket that stated the organizers could refuse admission for any or no reason.
Go to the police and file a sexual harassment complaint. If they balk, go to court and file for an order of protection against the parents serving as chaperones. The record will follow them the rest of their lives. The case would fall through and just be a waste of money. It would fall through. It was their organization.
I have an officer living in my house and if he read this chain he would laugh at how silly this is. She would be turned away. She did follow the rules. She may not have any kind of criminal case but I bet she could at least get a refund for her friends. I disagree with you.
She chose to attend and follow the rules by purchasing their ticket. Number one, by accounts, she DID follow the rules. D arbitrarily chose to make the rules only apply for one person. The money and time spent on the attire and associated expenses can — so I would say that girl and her group are entitled to recompensation.
The law as in a police officer will not arrest anyone at this point, however this could easily go to civil court, and if won in civil court, a prosecutor could decide to file charges as discrimination is against the law. Unlikely, but it could happen. You are aware that having a police office reading over your shoulder means jack and shit, right? Is this police officer also a lawyer? Does he understand discrimination and civil suits around said discrimination? Criminal law is not the same as civil law.
If anyone treated my daughter this way they would see the inside of a courtroom. Also, the whole affair strikes me as more of a jealous matriarchy than any other form of social lunacy. D saw a lovely young woman — like she never was. She sounds like a jealous ugly old biddy. Same tall, curvey, lovely girls seemed to get caught every day. Clare, you looked absolutely wonderful in the pictures you posted.
Your face and hair are classic beauty, and, as mentioned in other posts, your date looks like he managed to channel an equivalent level of classic good looks to match you. By your own admission, I would have looked twice — maybe even thrice — when you walked into the room.
To be fair, we have no idea what the dads in the balcony were looking at or talking about. There is nothing in this article to indicate that the males — boys and men — at this prom did anything untoward or inappropriate. The unfortunate events that unfolded here were not the doings of men.
Ed — I had the same thought. But I know from my growing up this happened several times where it was strictly the women enforcing dress code on young women. It is not out of line with psychology that they would use what ever reason they could come up real or imagined as a reason to slut shame, and avoid the personal responsibility of the situation. When is it ever necessary for more than one or two chaperons to be so far removed from the children they are chaperoning? What would be the purpose?
Yes, these older women derive some sort of benefit from all of this in that they feel a little more secure in their loss of beauty. Also, it is the complete trashing of the interpretations of the Bible to falsely favor a certain way of life that just happens to place all power and control in the hands of the old men of the group that informs this behavior.
It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. Lusting is not a sin. Only married people can commit adultery. Therefore, only married people lusting after another are committing the sin of adultery. Women can support patriarchy. Clare, what makes you beautiful is not the shape of your body, or your hair or eyes, or the way that dress looks on you.
Your intellect and understanding of what happened makes you wiser than the bunch of sex-deprived adults that in the name of chaperoning are looking for fantasy material for their private times. All the parents need to take the prom organizers, the ones not issuing the refunds, to small claims court separately, and then testify for each other.
That way these fools have to go to court five separate times. Make them pay and shut them down. I feel like you deserve a cookie for this because that would make their lives miserable for at least a little while. Are you being sarcastic or serious, for or against my proposal? Might be a bit too early for my mind to be working right. Being a thorn in their sides would be awesome. Its okay to think something is sexy as long as your behavior is appropriate for the situation.
Them being church dads has nothing to do with it. Perverted Church dads… More like pedophiles that go to church and are allowed to chaperon a school function like a dance to just fuel the fire.
I agree that they, the fathers, Mrs D and anyone else included in this PLOT to kick you out of your prom, should be held accountable in court. Now, depending on your local culture, this may make you a pariah but it may also create an important dialogue that would help prevent future occurrences of such behavior.
Yeah…a good lawsuit might do wonders. Did anyone even see the nasty chaperone woman running up and down the stairs in that brief 15 minutes? Did she have a walkie-talkie to communicate with the men?
You receive your filing and other, reasonable legal fees when you win. Therefore you FAIL basic reading comprehension. Must be a homeschool parent. It strikes me as probable that no fathers were actually involved. Just the nasty woman who hated the dress. Sounds more like the matriarchy was the bad actor in this story. I believe that you, your boyfriend, and your entire party were robbed of a wonderful evening and over a hundred dollars. When older adults treat young adults with disrespect and disdain, they damage their own credibility.
This really comes back to the rape argument. She was raped for being too tall, too short, too hot, too drunk, too dressy. Go out and make those memories away from 40 year old perverts. If she was, I would agree with your argument. She simply kicked out. Did you read my entire comment?
I made an analogy, if you will. The thought process behind blaming her for the men staring at her is the same EXACT thought process behind blaming the victim in rape. This highlights a male dominated society in which men are, essentially, allowed to do what they want and women are held to a much higher standard of behavior.
Those are statements that are not only said all the time, but are considered okay for daytime television and PG movies in one variation or another. Even women have those thoughts sometimes.
I read the entire thing. What people need to realize is that this is a private organization run my Christians and if they want to kick someone out because she looks to provocative, then they have every right to do so.
They were supposed to stand there and report anything. This whole situation has been blown way out of proportion. Sure it sucks that she got kicked out since it was fingertip length but this situation has blown up too much. Like I said, its a Christian organization that she paid to attend. By purchasing a ticket, she is implying that she is willing to abide to the rules of the people running the prom.
Nor does it mean she was automatically in the wrong because she wore a tight dress. She followed the rules, she was kicked out, and it was because they made up rules against her. She did abide by the rules! Does the dress code also say something about tightness? She followed the rules, she was kicked out despite having followed the rules, and you think because it is a private function this is okay? If a rape occurs at a private function, is that okay?
How about bullying, abuse, racism? The answer is no. It is never, ever okay to belittle, demean, demoralize, gang up on or persecute anybody, regardless of the public or private nature in which it takes place.
They simply asked her to leave. She was wearing a tight dress that could easily slide upwards. She was not being belittled. They seriously just made her leave. They are not breaking any laws by doing this.
I was there and witnessed the dress. If she wanted to be treated differently, she should have attended a different prom. Denying her a witness is also illegal. Did you attend this event? Because it sounds like you know nothing about the organization. Because it was tight? Because it was revealing? Did her boobs pop out? You have already stated that she followed the rules. Ergo she was discriminated against. Its a freaking homeschool prom. They chaperons have the right to say it looked too revealing.
If she wanted to be treated with dignity and respect, she should expect to be treated as such wherever she goes, whether she walks in wearing a tight dress or nothing at all. Please remember your god hung out with lepers and whores. My friend was also called out because her top was slightly too revealing. Finger tip length is finger tip length.
It is particularly infuriating when women are the ones enforcing harmful and inconsistent standards on other women. Clare, I hope you and your boyfriend and friends have a chance to get dressed up again and do something better than Patriarchy Prom. Archives and past articles from the Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia Daily News, and jti-innovation.com For the past half-dozen years I’ve been fighting an easily-mapped battle about the shortage of eligible bachelors in New York City. Straight, single women claim there’s no men, I wave around some data saying otherwise, and then we all have a fun time figuring out where the guys are hiding.